Rick Mills, Editor/ Publisher, Ahead of the Herd:
The president of China, when recently speaking to the foreign minister of Russia made some pretty blunt remarks about the United States and Europe.
Xi said, “Russia and China are not building an alliance we are building a new global reality. The West must either adapt or disappear.” Then he goes on to say the West wants others to live in perpetual poverty so that their banks remain rich – I’ve got to agree with that – and then the big remark, “We do not seek to rule the world, only to liberate it from those who believe they own it,” well jeez, don’t hold back X, tell us what you really think.
Bob Moriarty, Founder, 321gold:
Well, there was a report from Russia a day or two after that, it essentially said the same thing. Now we have talked in the past about an ongoing battle between the debt-based system of the West and the resource-based system of the East and the Global South. And the strange thing is very few people understand that, and very few people talk about it, and our readers need to understand this. This is ongoing, it’s absolute and the president of China has identified exactly the problem, and that’s the people that control the banks, ok.
And there were some really sharp remarks from Russia essentially saying the same thing. Clearly the Russians and the Chinese have gotten together, and they have said we need to start sending the message out and they are absolutely correct. I think the battle is going to come to a head very shortly, that tiny group of people, the oligarchs who control the media, control Wall Street, control the banks, control the Middle East, control the United States, I mean literally these people have said they own the Senate and the Congress and they’re losing ok.
Now they want to start World War III. Netanyahu showed up in Washington last week and he did two things: He told Donald Trump to bury the Epstein story, and he also said, OK, you need to rearm Ukraine, we need to get World War III cranking again. So, we’ve got some exceptionally dangerous times coming up and people need to understand it’s a battle between Europe, Canada, the United States, Australia and the BRICS. And the BRICS are going to win; the debt-based system is collapsing through its own corruption.
RM: There is a giant conflict going on. China is trying to mobilize the Global South when they speak of ushering in, they call it an orderly multipolarity. They’re basically envisioning a world in which the non-Western world has a lot more clout and that’s why they’re pushing the BRICS expansion.
They have no choice; they have to challenge the existing global financial order and the US dollar. Resource wealth plays a much more central role in their economies and global trade and the goal they’re really working amongst themselves is to facilitate trade in their own currencies. It’s a serious challenge that the United States is not ignoring.
BM: Well actually the United States is ignoring it, and it’s ignoring it to their peril. Here’s the answer, ok. I sent you the link to the book called ‘The Great Taking’. There are laws in place in the United States that when the banking system collapses, the banks can seize all the resources, ok.
If you have a loan on a car or a house or stocks, they’re going to seize all of them. Now I have read enough of the book to understand that its point is that it’s legal. However, I also understand that when people start finding out they don’t own their house, they don’t own their car and their retirement has been stolen by the banks, there will be a revolution, it will be bloody literally overnight.
What the banks have done, they have given out unlimited credit to everyone because they want the system to fail, and the system is failing and we could see just last week in Japan three officials from the Bank of Japan committed suicide in one day, which suggests highly that the Japanese bond market’s on the verge of blowing up.
RM: I agree with you about the collateral issue, I read ‘The Great Taking’ and about how they’re stealing, great to see it all laid out like that.
BM: Well, let me tell you they’re going to blow the system up, the financial system’s on its very last legs, but the people who control the debt-based system of the West and it’s a very small group, but the oligarchs believe that because they’ve got all the money they’ve got all the power. But Russia and China and India and Brazil and Mexico and South Africa could see that as the oligarchs get richer, they get poorer and they’re not happy with this.
Now this is an ongoing battle that has taken place for thousands of years. ok. You have an empire in a state of decline and all of a sudden, they decide they want to rule the world, and it’s going to fail, but it’s going to be very bloody.
RM: I’m going to read a bit here about Jeffrey Epstein and what’s going on since it’s back in the news, we should touch on this.
The far right have a belief, have you ever heard of the critical pedo theory? It’s almost as big to them as the election was stolen idea. The theory is that the world is ruled by a pedophile cabal and systemic pedophilia is inherent to the current order, have you heard of this?
BM: I haven’t but I need to research it because that’s absolutely true and I can give you a better description of what went on with Epstein than anybody you can interview. Whitney Webb web wrote two brilliant books called ‘The United States of Blackmail’ and it’s an incredible book.
If Americans understood how corrupt the government and the powerful leaders and businesses are there would be a revolution tomorrow. Trump has signed his own epitaph by trying to bury Epstein.
RM: I talked to John Rubino this morning and we talked about Epstein, and he’s got a theory that a Mossad CIA combo set up Epstein on purpose to get a blackmail hold over the world’s leaders and it was the children of course.
BM: It is, it’s totally dead wrong. Trump was Epstein’s best friend.
RM: You don’t think there’s been blackmail attempts by the Mossad et al?
BM: Yeah of course there are, but the biggest thing about the whole release is the fact that Donald Trump was just as guilty as everybody else. Now I have seen three reports including a video of Jeffrey Epstein talking about Trump. Jeffrey Epstein was the biggest Mossad agent in Israeli history: it was the most successful operation ever.
He was taken out of the prison in New York City and he’s alive and well in Israel today as there is no way that they’re ever going to identify who the people were because Donald Trump’s going to be at the top of the list.
RM: Well, there’s certainly no public autopsy reports on Jeffrey Epstein.
BM: Jeffrey Epstein didn’t die.
RM: Exactly.
BM: Now strangely enough the interview of Jeffrey Epstein that I saw said that the evillest person that he ever had visit him was Hillary Clinton. But it wasn’t just a Mossad operation, it was set up by the Mossad but it was the CIA, FBI and MI6 operation at the same time and what you’re saying about them having all this incredible information about some of the most powerful people in the world, guess who else has the Epstein tapes?
RM: Putin, Bondi, the FBI, Weinstein, but that’s personal, half of the world’s intelligence services…
BM: Even better; Iran.
RM: Shit! Well, they did hack Mossad.
BM: They downloaded 7 terabytes of data from the Mossad. We’re in this incredible situation and I’ve said many times in the past that everything the government says is a lie and if people want to understand what the truth is all they have to do is understand everything the government says is a lie.
There’s two different ways they can lie: They can lie by commission, which is to say this this is a hoax, this is bullshit, and that’s what Trump has tried. Or they can lie by omission, and omission says we’re not going to tell you the important details, like Donald Trump being best buddies with Jeffrey Epstein. And there are dozens of pictures of them together, including Donald Trump holding underage young women.
RM: They say there’s no list of clients but the problem for me is that hundreds of 14 or so year-old girls were interviewed by the grand jury, hundreds of hours of video, and the other thing about this is it’s global because two lawyers handled all of his work and part of that was they facilitated kids from Europe to come over to work as models, and of course he turned them into sex toys for the rich and powerful pedos.
So, there’s obviously an investigation that needs to concentrate on these sex tapes. The other thing is when the DOJ released the video footage from the area outside Epstein’s prison, they claimed it was raw, and to them it showed that he couldn’t have been murdered, but the problem with the video was it was it was exported from video editing software.
It’s kind of crazy all this stuff. The other one is an accounting firm was paid $100 million to do Epstein’s taxes, bullshit.
I don’t think it’s going to go away for Donald Trump, I think it’s going to do irreparable damage to his administration.
BM: Well strangely enough I think the reason the Chinese and the Russians have come out with these very strong statements in the last week was because of Donald Trump’s comments about Epstein. Now I had talked to you about lying by omission, ok. Under what circumstance would there be an Epstein list?
RM: Nothing will ever be published, and I don’t think there’s any list.
BM: It wouldn’t exist; there’s no reason for a list. They have tens of thousands of hours of people on tape that was turned over to the Mossad, to a former prime minister, ok. It was clearly a Mossad operation and the data was handed to the Mossad, they didn’t need a list they have all the tapes, and the really funny thing is if you want to find out who the pedophiles are, and the FBI knows who the pedophiles are because they’ve got the videos, ok all they’ve got to do is look at them and see whose butt is moving.
It was an intelligence operation, it’s been compromised by the Iranians, Maxwell has come out and said, “Hey if it was a hoax why am I in prison, I would be happy to testify in front of Congress, and I’ll give you all the names of the people involved.”
Now to say there were 200 victims, there were no perpetrators is patently absurd. Of course, somebody was raping those young women and that’s what they’re hiding. Now yes, they would like to use it for blackmail purposes, but it just created a noose around their neck. There are too many people who have accurate information, it’s all going to come out.
Somebody came out with the list years ago. A data broker went in and checked the transmission towers near the island, and they tracked 1,000 people who came to Jeffrey Epstein’s Island. They know exactly who these people are, they know where they live, they know where their businesses are, so most of the date is already out there, but there’s going to be more and more information because somebody at the FBI is going to go to the New York Times or the Wall Street and say “Look I’m going to take you who all these guys were.”
This is too big to hide, and it is not only the end of the Trump administration, but also the end of the American empire.
RM: Well, you can’t hide a money trail. Who was directing, aiding and bankrolling Epstein’s activities, especially the bankrolling. You cannot hide those money transfers.
BM: We know. There were half a dozen Jewish oligarchs who deliberately gave Epstein hundreds of millions of dollars, gave him access to the largest property in Manhattan, they gave it to him, ok. It was a Mossad operation, it was financed by Jewish oligarchs, it was done on behalf of Israel, the United States saw it and they’re taking advantage of it, and MI6 naturally wanted to be included. The most wonderful thing is Iran going in and stealing the data from the Mossad.
RM: Iran has just been bombed by Israel, they basically have free reign over the country, and they’ve been bombed by the US are they going to use it?
BM: Let me put it this way, they’re probably trying to use it now. Who do you think won the 12-day war?
RM: Iran’s nuclear capabilities were not destroyed, so they’ve got that on their side. On the other hand, it was very surprising to see that while Israel did lose some F-35s they had a lot of free reign to fly over Iran.
BM: No, you’re listening to the mainstream media. Go back to where I said that everything the media is telling you is a lie. Ok here’s the deal and I’m speaking as a former combat F-4 pilot, there wasn’t a single Israeli aircraft that got anywhere near Iran and all the damage was caused by missiles and it was caused by drones, Ok. There were aircraft shot down, but I don’t even think they were shot down over Iran I think they were shot down over Iraq.
RM: So, the three nuclear sites that were attacked, with one of three destroyed, they were all attacked by Tomahawk cruise missiles or other missiles?
BM: Exactly. Let me put it this way and I’ll tell you this is 100%. If I was a B2 pilot you couldn’t get me within 200 miles of Iran, ok, that’s a suicide mission. They could’ve shot those B2s down with BB guns, now the Iranians and the Russians have proven that the F-35 is not stealthy, it can be captured on radar, it has been captured on radar, there are F-35s that have been shot down.
But if you actually look at the damage done to Israel, literally they’ve got gasoline rationing there now, and there are people leaving the country every day they can because the country is essentially bankrupt and there was 10 times more damage done to Israel than anybody in the media is willing to say.
Israel got their asses kicked solidly and it was China and Russia who told Iran to slow down on their attacks. Now Israel still intends to attack Iran and when they do it, they’re going to do it with mini nukes. And Iran is going to level Israel.
RM: You wanted to talk about Rackla Metals.
BM: I’m going to talk about something that is a little bit esoteric and I know that you and I are going to be talking to Quinton Hennigh soon and we’re going to get a more detailed explanation, but one of the things that I want to say is I’ve visited a lot of projects in Alaska and the Yukon in this belt, and quite bluntly the biggest pathfinder for gold is not gold, it’s bismuth and the Rackla system is bismuth-rich.
It is different than the other projects like Snowline, Sitka etc., however that’s from a technical point of view but they’re finding a lot of bismuth and that suggests there’s going to be a lot of gold. I believe, and it’s my opinion, they have found one zone at the bottom of the hill that was something in excess of 500 meters and I think it was a gram and a half per ton or something like that. They’ve extended that zone a couple of hundred meters, they’re drilling from the top, they’ve done three holes so far, and they’re finding tons of these bismuth veins.
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Now at both Sitka and Snowline when they found the quartz veins, they could see the gold. At Rackla you can’t see the gold, but you can see the bismuth and it is my contention that the bismuth is hiding the gold, and we know from the assets that have already been taken at the bottom of the hill that there is 500 meters of economic material.
The first hole that they drilled was 200 meters, they ran short of drill rods, the second hole was 300 meters and then they got a big shipment of drill rods so they’re drilling deeper now. It’ll be a month or six weeks before there’s assay results out, but in my opinion. I’m not a chemist, I’m not a geologist, I’ve just been to 4-500 projects I’m going to tell you I think it’s going to be a home run out of the park.
RM: It’s share price has backed backed off a little bit from it’s recent high, but the overall interest level in the whole Tombstone is still high.
Did you did you want to talk about the report on the failure of the heap leach facility at the Eagle mine because I’ve read it several times and it doesn’t seem like what happened was an engineering failure.
BM: Well, let me put it this way, human beings make mistakes, and I have no particular issue with that. Unfortunately, in mining with heap leach pads those mistakes can be catastrophic. I believe that the Eagle mine will be back in production, I think that the government of Yukon overreacted, they literally have turned the project over to the First Nations and this is all about green. I don’t think that that John] McConnell made any serious mistakes, there could have been critical small mistakes, but those things happen in the mining business just like they do every other business.
RM: The good news out of this report is that heap leaching in the Yukon, basically sub-Arctic cold, works. Really out of the whole report there didn’t seem to be any reason for any kind of a backlash against heap leaching itself and that is good news for a lot of different companies up there.
BM: What you’re saying is absolutely true, whether the government of the Yukon understands it, whether the First Nation group that controls the mine understands it, that mine can be put back into production, it was economic at $1,800 gold.
RM: Let’s jump to commodities, we’ve been talking about the farm crisis, and it is a crisis in the US, they’re losing their laborers, they’re getting raided, you’re putting out the people who the US agricultural industry rely on, and at the same time there’s news out now that China’s stopped buying soybeans and pork.
The agricultural trade situation in the US is butt ugly, US farm imports to China in the first three months of 2025 were down 50% on the year. China’s imposed high tariffs on US agriculture products, 135% on some items, this could very well be a death blow to an awful lot of small farmers and the financial pressure’s already starting to show up. You’ve got a surge in farm bankruptcies, more chapter 12 filings in the first three months of 2025 than all of ’24, it’s already a disaster.
BM: Well, it’s something we’ve been talking about for two or three months, and yeah, it’s here big surprise. Here’s the deal, it’s a double-edged sword. You’ve got Trump who’s wildly out of control, people will say that he’s done a 720 and I was trying to figure out what a 720 means and it means you do a 180 and then you do another 180 and then you do another 180 and then you do another 180.
The tariff solutions by Trump are catastrophic to the world’s economy, but even worse and that you were talking about earlier in the interview was they’re going after the migrant workers because they can find them, ok, and if we don’t have illegal migrants to harvest our crops, we’re not going to have any crops.
RM: Citizen Watch report had a very interesting article out, it was about the bond ceiling being back in play. The 30-year yield for a third time this year went above 5%, now it’s a back off a little bit this morning, when I checked it was 4.99% and every time this 5% line has held for decades, every time it gets tested it just seems to snap back.
It looks like the movie Groundhog Day, it’s the third test in four months, and bond traders are watching this because they consider the 5% a huge fault line.
When you look at the S&P 500 you see three things: very narrow tops, very narrow breadth and the small caps are exhausted: RSIs above 80 and volumes are thin. Wells Fargo borrowed $196 billion in Q2 to stay liquid and thats in the filings.
Who’s next, JP Morgan and Citi are quiet but regional banks are bleeding deposits, The last time the top four banks tapped emergency liquidity was in 2009.
The bond traders are starting to understand what’s going on, the 5% yield’s pulling in buyers, the level’s been very reliable for well over two decades, every breach reversed, and bond yields drop from here normally. The bond market is $140 trillion, and the US share of that is over $50 trillion, if 20- and 30- year yields stay above 5 and maybe even start to climb than there’s something going on in the bond market that goes way deeper than the destruction of the yen carry trade.
BM: Well yeah, but the yen carry trade and the Japanese interest rate shooting higher were the ignition to the US bond market, and one thing that you haven’t mentioned but it’s very important to mention, when you’re talking about the derivatives, ok 80% of derivatives are bets on interest rates.
People like to talk about gold derivatives or silver derivatives or US dollar derivatives and those are all meaningless, the most important derivatives – and there’s an estimate of a couple of quadrillion dollars in derivatives – the derivatives market’s going to blow up. I don’t think there’s any other possible alternative and I’ll go on record again, between now and October we’re going to have a major crash in everything.
RM: Well, we’re definitely in a bubble and it’s going to pop.
BM: And you know now where you go from there, ok, the next move is down. Yes, it’s a melt-up but the next move is down and it’s coming very soon and frankly you can see it in the cryptocurrencies that have just exploded higher.
RM: You brought up ‘The Great Taking,’ the author talks about the money supply and the velocity of money and both just spike, readers should look at M1 and M2 long term charts and remember the dates of significant market crashes.
BM: Well, that’s deliberate, ok, that’s what’s so funny, it’s not an accident, this is something that’s happened through the stupidity of people in the banking system. This was a deliberate planned operation for the end of empire, we’re going to steal all the assets.
It’s like the Biden administration, the Department of Energy handed out $93 billion in grants in the two months after Trump’s election. They have never handed out $93 billion in all of the Department of Energy’s history, but the Biden administration was literally hurling money at Democrats.
RM: It looks like it’s finally silver’s time. We’ve been talking about silver a lot, you brought a new sponsor onto your site Silver North Resources, trades as SNAG on the Venture. This company is a pure silver play, and it offers investors exposure to one of the most prolific silver districts in Canada and the world – Keno Hill.
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Keno Hill is seeing major investment from Hecla, which is the largest silver producer in the United States. Next door Silver North’s Haldane project is already demonstrating a lot of high-grade, high-width vein potential, very similar to the veins being mined at Keno hill by Hecla. You like this company.
BM: Well, here’s the deal. I’ve known management for 15 years and they’ve got a great land position in the Keno Hill district, and they’ve done a fair bit of drilling, so they know what they’ve got, and they know what the potential is, but the reason the stock got so cheap is they weren’t saying much, and they weren’t doing very much.
So, I talked to the guy in charge of the company, we spent about 30 minutes on the phone, and I said, “Look I mean your story is so simple, you’ve just got to tell your story, there’s nothing to it, you cannot have those kinds of grades without having a major deposit.” He said, “We know” and I said, “Well damn, get off your ass and start telling your story.” He said, “That’s why I’m calling you.”
RM: It’s a very small number of holes for three discoveries and not just one vein; the main fault hosts multiple high-grade, silver-bearing veins and breccias. You can have a 30-million-ounce silver deposit within 300 meters at those grades, and they’ve got they’ve got a lot of veins left to explore in a lot of areas.
BM: Well, you’ve raised a really good point, it is a pure silver story, and frankly silver investors get a little goofy and they like pure silver stories, but this is not a silver discovery, there was existing mining going on the project for the last 100 years.
Now I happen to know a very famous geologist, I won’t mention his name but he used to go up there with a pickup truck and they would high-grade some of these adits, which I thought was really cool, ok, but there’s a boatload of silver there and they’ve raised some money and they’re going to be drilling and they’re going to come up with some extraordinary results.
RM: And it’s still less than a $10 million market cap today.
BM: You know how I feel about cheap stocks and it’s a cheap stock with a great story and money in the bank.
RM: Let’s talk about something in the Middle East before we get into our feel-good story, Gaza is starving, they’re shooting people coming to the food places but there was some even disturbing news today that Rick Wiles mentioned it in his e-mail.
He says that the head of Israeli security, the spy agency, I take it he’s referring to Mossad, visited the United States to enlist Trump to help them convince certain countries, you know bribe them a little bit I guess, into taking the next step to take refugees from Gaza. The plan that Trump floated, to tear down Gaza to move everybody out and build his resort seems to be in full swing.
BM: Well absolutely, now I’m going to tell you something that I’ve never heard anybody else mention. Do you know what Greater Israel is?
RM: I don’t know enough about it to talk about it.
BM: Ok, I would highly suggest that all our readers go to Google and put in “Greater Israel”. Israel’s been stealing land for 80 years, it’s deliberate, it’s planned, it’s a long-term operation and the soldiers of IDA in Gaza have a map on their uniforms, but the map is not a map of Israel it’s a map of Greater Israel.
Now I’ll tell you something from a practical point of view and I argue in my book, ordinary people who use common sense and information available to anybody can come up with valid decisions all by themselves.
So, my question is, ok, if you’re going to displace 2 million people from Gaza, how difficult is it going to be to move 2 million people? Some of these people would be Ethiopians, some of the people would be Indonesians, I don’t remember what the others were, but if they convince these countries to take in refugees how practical is it to consider moving 2 million people?
RM: I can’t imagine, the logistics are impossible.
BM: That’s exactly right. My problem with the entire Trump administration, I’m going to tell you I’ve finally concluded the guy’s a massive fraud, he’s a bullshit artist, he’s lied about everything that he’s going to do, he is totally illiterate in economic terms, what happened to “I’m going to end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours.” What happened to “I’m going to end the war in Gaza.” What happened to “I’m not going to start any more stupid wars.”
Everything that he said he was going to do he’s failed out, and factually he’s not saving money from the government he’s increasing money for the government and the fact is he’s accelerating the financial collapse of the United States, so I have come to the conclusion a lot of people have already come to, the guy is a total fraud, he’s a liar, he’s a fat ass, he changes his mind two or three times today and frankly looking at his ankles and his problem with water retention I’m going to tell you the guy’s got physical problems and he could keel over of a heart attack at any time at all.
RM: Well, I looked closely at another video, many times, the close up of his bruised right hand, what’s going on there other than the bruising is that’s not shaking, his hand clenches than releases, clenches releases and then it twitches upward at the end.
Besides an awful makeup cover up job it’s nerve damage and a lot more serious than what they’re telling us.
A friend of mine thinks he has it all figured out, he said call Trump a useful idiot, he’s a pawn on the chess board of the world, you know Russia, China, North Korea and Israel, they’re all playing him.
BM: Well strangely enough he is owned and operated by Israel. The whole thing about Epstein and the whole thing about sending more munitions to the Ukraine was a direct result of Bibi Netanyahu coming to Washington and giving him his marching orders. The president of the United States does not work for the United States; he works for Israel.
RM: Let’s do our feel good here because I think a lot of people have concerns and negative feelings about AI, and that’s not a stupid thing to be concerned with, but let’s just take a look at how it helps us vastly in the medical industry.
You can use it for early disease detection by improving diagnostic accuracy. AI can analyze medical images, all of them – X-rays, CT scans, MRIs – to detect diseases like cancer or heart conditions in their very early stage, using AI is more effective than any human because AI can analyze the vast amounts of data that we use to identify obscure patterns that would be missed by us.
And you get faster diagnosis, and you get more accurate diagnosis, AI can analyze genetic information, and it creates tailored treatment plans for individuals and that vastly increases the likelihood of successful outcomes.
Now, when you’re at home and you’ve got a chronic condition AI can monitor your vital signs and symptoms remotely, and that’s an early intervention right there, if you’ve got something seriously going wrong it’s going to tell you long before you might even realize and it gets help there quicker.
You’ve also got AI-powered robots assisting in surgeries and because of AI you can operate on patients in the remotest locations or under the most challenging of circumstances,
BM: Let me give you some interesting things to think about, I’ve got a trick question for you when you’re talking about rare earth elements what’s rare about them?
RM: Nothing, they’re very common, they’re just hard to separate into their individual elements.
BM: Ok, when you’re talking about AI what does it have to do with intelligence?
RM: Very little.
BM: It has nothing to do with intelligence; AI is pattern recognition but it’s very accurate pattern recognition and you have raised a really good point.
The next five to 10 years there is going to be a revolution in medical technology and people are going to live longer and safer 10 years from now than they do now because AI looks at patterns and recognizes things that human beings have problems with.
Legally prescribed drugs in the United States are one of the biggest causes of death, ok? The medical system of the United States is the most expensive medical system in the world and it’s one of the most dangerous and AI is absolutely going to start a revolution, it’s already started and it’s going to be better for everyone, the quality of life, the quality of healthcare is going to improve significantly.
RM: Anybody being born today or the last number years I think their life is going to be vastly improved with the use of AI.
So, to wrap this up, Quinton Hennigh’s coming back on the show on Monday. We’re going to be talking to him about his visit to the Yukon, a couple of stocks, other things.
BM: Well strangely enough I spent 30 minutes on the phone with him tonight and it’s absolutely true and his information about Rackla is extremely good from a technical point of view. We had a slight technical difference which is really unusual because he’s so good at what he does. He and I have made a bet about what the drill results are going to show in relationship to bismuth.
RM: LOL, that’s really interesting, let’s put that off and get into it with Quinton on the 21st.
BM: That’s exactly what we should do and anybody who’s interested in any of the projects in the Tombstone Belt needs to pay attention to that interview because they’re going to listen to one of the top geologists in the world.
RM: Absolutely, thank you Bob we will reconvene on Monday.
BM: OK, see you Monday.
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